Grindelwald is the first one to tell Queenie that her powers are a gift, something to be proud of. She totally succumbs to his cause and becomes his most eager follower. She uses legilimency to interrogate and torture their prisoners, because only a person who is very emphatic and can dive in other people’s minds knows exactly how to really hurt someone.

This is exactly the sort of thing that makes me think it’s really not so far fetched that Queenie would join Grindelwald.  He knows how to make his cause sounds incredibly appealing.  Queenie’s been told her whole life not to use her ability or if she can’t manage that then to hide it, but Grindelwald tells her it’s beautiful.  That in his world she’d be celebrated for it.

I can definitely see her interrogating and manipulating people – she already supplied Grindelwald info about Credence’s thoughts, after all – and I think as time goes on she’d be more and more comfortable with it.  I don’t picture her torturing people directly, but I do love the image of her standing there watching while someone else gets their hands dirty, constantly telling Gellert or one of his followers whether the victim is lying, what they’re most afraid of, how close they are to breaking, and maybe even feeling powerful for using her gift to help make the world better.  Remember – it’s all for the greater good.

I’ve seen your Grindelwald tormenting/breaking Percival and Newt fics (which are damn fine non-con) and I raise you: Gellert realizing that torturing Newt doesn’t seem to be breaking him, because Newt’s not overly concerned for himself…but! torturing Graves in front of Newt? Well, that’s a whole different story. I want a Grindelwald who only treats the tied up, crying Newt with (mock?) kindness after getting his hands dirty with Percival, because he knows the guilt is eating Newt alive.

mercurial-tenacity:

Gellert is starting to get frustrated when he decides to try a different strategy. He cleans Newt up, heals his injuries with gentle hands, and gives him time to rest. He tries not to laugh at the distrustful, anxious looks Newt gives him – he’ll understand before too long.

Then he drags Percival out of his cell. It’s been a while since Gellert played with him – the thrill went out of it when he realized the man wasn’t much more than a broken body anymore. But it turns out he has one last purpose left to serve.

He spends a while softening Percival up, getting him nicely bruised and bloody before bringing Newt in. One look at his shocked face and Gellert knows he has him. He explains the rules – he’s going to torture Percival for a while, and Newt gets to watch. Then he’ll give Newt a choice; willingly submit to him and join the cause, or ask Gellert to please keep torturing Percival for a while longer. The catch is that Gellert can tell if Newt is lying, and if he asks to join without truly meaning it he’ll prolong the next torture session even more. Maybe he also promises permenant damage to Percival if Newt refuses to answer, so there’s no opting out of the game.

He caresses Newt’s cheek with a hand still wet with Percival’s blood and promises, gives his solemn word, that no further harm will come to Newt. All the pain that would have been his, Gellert will give to Percival instead. So just remember, Newt – if you hadn’t resisted, this wouldn’t be happening to him.

@vindsie how about a Percival who is broken, but aware enough to recognize Newt?  He begs Newt not to try to save him because it’s too late, Gellert has already won against him and Percival can’t recover.  He knows he’s broken and it isn’t worth Newt throwing himself away for the wreck of a man he knows he’s become.

But Newt can never accept that.  He won’t give up on Percival and listening to his screams and whimpers is killing him as surely as if Gellert drove a knife through his chest.  He’s just not the kind of person who can let someone else suffer.

And the worst part is that Percival knows that.  Even as he writhes on the floor, even when the pain takes him beyond the ability to speak, he knows Newt will break for him.  Gellert will win again and all Percival can do is twitch and cry, torn between pleading for Newt to hold out and, in the part of his mind that just wants the pain to stop, hoping that it happens soon so that this can end.

Ohhh to do with the torture,, something where grindelwald just cuddles newt for a good half hour Because He Can and newt hating how touch starved he is that he enjoys it

TOUCH STARVATION YAS. I’m here for it.

Gellert touches him so gently – not necessarily sexually, but soft and comforting – while Percival lays bleeding on the stone floor in front of them. Gellert doesn’t even look at him, but Newt can’t tear his eyes away. He feels sick. He wants to go to Percival and help him but he can’t, he’s restrained, he can’t move or do anything but sit there and feel his traitorous body lean into Gellert’s touches.

In the end, he buries his head in Gellert’s shoulder and cries.

Dark times have come, and Newt is way to soft. Albus and Theseus decide that Newt has to become a fully trained auror, and they teach him everything. One section of the training is getting used to torture. Every auror has to undergo this. They take him when Newt sleeps, blindfold him and torture/question him. First they use pain, and then they use pleasure. Newt has no idea of who does this to him or how many there are. After 1 whole night of edging he is ready to tell them EVERYTHING

Newt has to know how to protect himself, it’s important. Theseus can’t stand the thought of his little brother being so vulnerable and Albus agrees.

They’ve gotten to a particularly hard part of the training, but isn’t it better for Newt to learn from people who love him when he isn’t in any real danger than when he’s grabbed by someone with no qualms about hurting him?

What they may have failed to account for is that Newt isn’t an auror, doesn’t have the temperament of an auror, and, unlike the recruits at the academy, doesn’t actually know that such a thing is part of the curriculum.

It’s possible that instead of making Newt stronger, Theseus and Albus’ “training” has actually made Newt traumatized, vulnerable, and easier to take advantage of…

I’ve seen your Grindelwald tormenting/breaking Percival and Newt fics (which are damn fine non-con) and I raise you: Gellert realizing that torturing Newt doesn’t seem to be breaking him, because Newt’s not overly concerned for himself…but! torturing Graves in front of Newt? Well, that’s a whole different story. I want a Grindelwald who only treats the tied up, crying Newt with (mock?) kindness after getting his hands dirty with Percival, because he knows the guilt is eating Newt alive.

Gellert is starting to get frustrated when he decides to try a different strategy. He cleans Newt up, heals his injuries with gentle hands, and gives him time to rest. He tries not to laugh at the distrustful, anxious looks Newt gives him – he’ll understand before too long.

Then he drags Percival out of his cell. It’s been a while since Gellert played with him – the thrill went out of it when he realized the man wasn’t much more than a broken body anymore. But it turns out he has one last purpose left to serve.

He spends a while softening Percival up, getting him nicely bruised and bloody before bringing Newt in. One look at his shocked face and Gellert knows he has him. He explains the rules – he’s going to torture Percival for a while, and Newt gets to watch. Then he’ll give Newt a choice; willingly submit to him and join the cause, or ask Gellert to please keep torturing Percival for a while longer. The catch is that Gellert can tell if Newt is lying, and if he asks to join without truly meaning it he’ll prolong the next torture session even more. Maybe he also promises permenant damage to Percival if Newt refuses to answer, so there’s no opting out of the game.

He caresses Newt’s cheek with a hand still wet with Percival’s blood and promises, gives his solemn word, that no further harm will come to Newt. All the pain that would have been his, Gellert will give to Percival instead. So just remember, Newt – if you hadn’t resisted, this wouldn’t be happening to him.

Newt ans Albus get caught by Grindelwald’s followers. Grindelwald restrains Albus and makes him watch while he excruciatingly tortures Newt. And he tells Albus that it is only his fault this has to happen. And Newt looks at Albus with eyes full of pain, he cries and asks him to help, but there is no help cause Gellert won’t stop. In this moment Albus’ mind shatters and his soul breaks.

Newt tries to be strong at first. It’s obvious what Grindelwald’s game is and Newt refuses to be used against Albus. He grits his teeth and holds in his screams while he waits for it to end, because surely help will come soon.

He manages to keep that up for an entire day. One whole day of torture, and then Gellert sets him up for the night – restrained in a rig that keeps a current running through his entire body and makes his muscles painfully twitch and spasm, sometimes surging intensely but always enough to cause pain. Gellert leaves him like that, and leaves Albus to watch him, long enough for Gellert to get a good night’s sleep and have a relaxing breakfast. It ends up being just shy of ten hours.

The next morning he greats Newt by turning the intensity up until screams are ripped from his throat, and Newt just isn’t able to pull himself together again after that.

He keeps Albus gagged so that all he can do is watch – no manipulation or negotiating or words of comfort for Newt.

Newt though, he lets Newt scream and beg as much as he wants. And Newt knows what Gellert is doing, he knows Albus is as much a victim as he is, but when the pain hits it doesn’t matter – he just wants it to stop. He begs his mentor for help, to do something, anything, please please make him stop oh God –

But Albus can’t. Gellert will not stop. It’s clear – Grindelwald has won.

Oh my god yes. Gellert AND Credence catching Newt. Newt being so horribly confused about why Credence is now helping the bad guy. And Gellert letting Credence break Newt, only getting involved when his pants get too tight. THIS.

Okay but what about – Gellert TEACHING Credence how to break Newt??

“Harder, my boy. See the set of his jaw? He doesn’t understand his place yet. No, no, leave the blindfold on, I want you to see what sensory deprivation does to a person.”

While Newt begs Credence to stop and think, Gellert is using him, already used him in New York, please Credence there are people who can help you –

And Credence just stares at him with a look of awe on his face, marveling at the power Gellert is teaching him to wield over another human being. He loves Newt’s whimpers, his pleas, the way his body gets all soft and desperate when he’s hurt.

As Newt comes closer and closer to breaking Credence grows to admire Gellert more and more.

Hi, I read the prompt about legilimency sex and now I imagine it the other way round: Grindelwald being held captive at Macusa, alone, in complete dark and complete silence, not able to move. Total sensory deprivation. And Albus torturing him with these thoughts and pictures so that Grindelwald can FEEL it… but it is never enough to let him orgasm and he slowly goes mad

Yessss this is good too. Everything Albus does is amplified by the total deprivation, and Gellert doesn’t know whether he craves it as relief from the horrible all encompassing nothing, or dreads it for the almost painful frustration and need it leaves him with. Perhaps he tried to shut Albus out of his mind at first, but after a while he just… stopped fighting it. It’s the only thing he’s been allowed to feel for… days? Weeks? Maybe even months, he doesn’t know. It’s impossible to keep track of time in the total darkness.

Perhaps Albus stopped for a while, and that’s what broke him – the fear that he’d never be allowed to experience touch again, that he’d be trapped forever in this hell, this yawning void, and when Albus enters his mind again – finally, after so long – he would have sobbed with relief if he’d been capable of making a sound.

No one at MACUSA knows it’s happening of course. Gellert can’t speak, he can’t move, all he can do is sit there in total silence and isolation while the entire outside world slowly ceases to exist for him. All that’s left are Albus’ touches on his mind.

The idea of Grindelwald kidnapping Newt and torturing him in order to hurt Albus is dark and twisted and I need a fanfiction about this omfg

Yessss I’m loving that idea tbh. There’s nothing Newt can say or do to make it stop because it’s literally not about him at all. Gellert doesn’t want information or anything that Newt has, he just wants to hurt him. It’s that simple. Perhaps Gellert starts to enjoy torturing Newt though – he’s so very pretty after all, and so much fun to play with.

I really want to write this, it’s probably going to happen